Parallel and sequential irrigation

[gd1122]

I want to water zones 1 and 3 at the same time and then automatically water zones 2 and 4 at the same time.

It's not clear to me how to set this up. Or it doesn't work at all.

[Anonymous]

As far as I understand, you have to set the same start time for zones 1 and 3 and manually set a different start time for zones 2 and 4, which is after the watering time of the first zones.

Because you can't form groups where you then say this or that group should be processed sequentially. You can only tell each zone that it should be processed sequentially. So if you have two zones with the same or overlapping watering time, you can only use the “Sequential” flag to say that they cannot be activated at the same time but one after the other. A zone is then delayed until the previous one is finished.

[gd1122]

Yes, that's what I've been doing so far. but that doesn't give you a good handle on the weather dependency. If it is drier, the running time  (for 1+3) can double. With fixed follow-up times, you must then set long breaks as a precaution. I would like automatic follow-up irrigation.

[Ed]

Hello everyone,

Has anything improved here? I would like to run 2 circles (beds) together, but for me it is circle 2 and circle 4, i.e. there is another circle in between. So not possible at the moment (or I missed something). The fact that you can't change the order here is really disappointing. This definitely needs to be more flexible, alternatively with groups or something similar. This is way too rigid...

[Anonymous]

Try it with:
Edit options

Configure main irrigation circuit or edit irrigation circuits

This firmware supports up to 2 independent master stations, each with their own settings as below
listed.
● Master Station: Define a master station/zone, also known as a pump station. Master is a zone that
is switched on together with other zones. Each zone can be set as master. The default
is none (i.e. no use of a master station).
● Master On Adjustment: Fine-tune the exact time at which the master turns on. The acceptable one
Range is 0 to 600 seconds, in 5 second increments. For example, if it is set to 15, switches
The master station turns on 15 seconds after opening a station.
● Master Off Setting: Fine tune the exact time the master turns off. The acceptable one
Range is -600 to 0 seconds, in 5 second increments. For example, if it is set to -15, switches
The master station turns off 15 seconds before a station closes.
Handling stations
● Number of stations: OpenSprinkler can automatically detect the number of available expansion cards;
However, the user still needs to set the number of zones manually as they limit the number of physical zones
may exceed. This is particularly useful when using the virtual station feature (e.g.
remote or RF stations). The default is 8.
● Station delay: the delay time between two consecutive stations. The acceptable range
is -600 to 600 seconds, in 5 second increments. For example, if it is set to 60, opens
OpenSprinkler Firmware 2.1.9 User Manual 14
the second zone closes 1 minute after the first zone closes. Opens at a setting of -15 seconds
The second zone closes 15 seconds before the first zone closes. A negative station delay is
sometimes useful to solve water throttling problems. The default is 0 (i.e. the next
Zone opens immediately after the previous zone).

Good luck, HG

 

[Ed]

Sorry but this is just a workaround. It can't be that you can set "programs" in opensprienkler, but the order and parallelization of the zones cannot be set here. If I had known that, I would have built my own logic in NodeRed and KNX. OpenSprinkler is currently not recommended, it is better to use Hunter or build your own logic in OH, HA or NR.

[Anonymous]

You can water multiple zones at the same time by making each zone its own
sequential group. You do this by clicking on this in the main view
Click on the gear in the zone, then click on the “Advanced” tab and there a group letter
forgives. If two zones have the same group membership, they become sequential
If they are in different zones, they are executed independently of each other.

[Admin]

Have you seen that the new firmware update now also supports group formation?

[Kito]

Where can I find the new firmware?

I have installed now:

2.1.9 (10)

 

edit: I found it.

Firmware 2023 – Version 2.3.0(128)

How do I install this (remotely)?

3.2 DC

[nightingale]

Unfortunately, the group feature of the new firmware doesn't seem to offer what gd1122 (and I too) would like. I had this here. asked: https://OpenSprinkler.com/forums/topic/parallel-grouping-of-stations-with-2-2-0-ospi-firmware/ and unfortunately that's probably out of scope.

I want to water zones 1 and 3 at the same time and then automatically water zones 2 and 4 at the same time.

It's not clear to me how to set this up. Or it doesn't work at all.

That doesn't work. Unfortunately.

 

[gd1122]

Is it known why this is not also made available for OSPi?

[Admin]

The firmware is also available for OSPi. Simply run the update script (with sudo) – export the config first!

The following rules apply to the new group function:

– within a group (same letter) everything runs sequentially

– Outside the groups (different letters) everything runs parallel

– Group P always runs in parallel

So you only need to set 1 + 2 in group A and 3 + 4 in group B.

[Simulant]

Irgendwie erschließt sich mir die Logik der Gruppierung nicht – ich glaube ich verstehe sie, finde sie aber unlogisch. Wenn ich von Gruppen spreche, würde ich doch erwarten, dass diese gleich behandelt werden, quasi parallel laufen und die einzelnen Gruppen dann nacheinander abgearbeitet werden. Ich plane gerade die Erweiterung meiner Bewässerung und da würde ich dann gern Zone 1 und Zone 2 nacheinander laufen lassen. In den Zonen sind 4 bzw. 5 Kreise, die im wesentlichen zeitgleich laufen sollen, damit meine Pumpe nicht ständig taktet (falls nur einzelne Kreise laufen fördert sie zu viel). Damit das dann funktioniert, müsste ich also mit der aktuellen Gruppenlogik Zone1.Kreis1 (Z1.K1) und Zone2.Kreis1 (Z2.K1) z.B. Gruppe A zuordnen, Z1.K2 und Z2.K2 Gruppe B etc…damit alle Kreise aus Zone 1 gleichzeitig und anschließend Zone 2 läuft. Ich hätte es logisch gefunden, alle Kreise aus Zone 1 in eine Gruppe zu legen, die dann diese Kreise parallel laufen lässt und Zone 2 in Gruppe B die dann wiederum mit deren Kreisen parallel arbeitet, wenn A fertig ist – (parallel in der Gruppe und sequentiell zwischen den Gruppen). Die Logik, dass das was gleichzeitig passieren soll, die Zuordnung in verschiedene Gruppen erfordert, ist m.E. etwas unglücklich oder ich verstehe es falsch. Ich glaube, dass da der eine oder andere Kommentar im Internet da auch in meine Interpretationsrichtung geht.

Is there any provision for an adjustment to the concept/operating logic, or is it fixed like that?

[gd1122]

I see it that way too, it's illogical. An adjustment would be advisable.

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